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Cyn

Lakkris: What happened to your uncle for simply standing up for what his conscience/morals told him was right, was horrible.The ensuing wrongs done to others in the face of the overthrow of the government is also terrible.

I concur that our problems are not unique to
Americans. The problems here do belong to us though, and it's our choice to settle for the status quo or actively participate in helping change things for the better.

When I was in public school, my mother counseled me to ignore American history because from her point of view as a Canadian, it was inaccurate. (There's a saying about how the winner's version of the account of a battle is considered the correct one.)

As an adult, I've made a modest effort to catch up as it were, on the circumstances which brought this country to be.

We are told that when looking for principles to guide us in how best to govern, that we draw upon the foundation of what the Founding Fathers had in mind for us.

Obviously, it was a very different time when the country was in it's infancy. That makes it hard for me to see how the principles of a country in which the first president had no political affiliation and a number of later presidents belonged to one of three parties--can be easily applied to what the system has evolved into today. It's my understanding that states had much more power to govern themselves then as well.

Since it seems that I've taken a position that raises people's hackles, I will make an honest effort to better acquaint myself with American history and the current system of government, as what is in place right now does not feel like a government "of the people, by the people, and for the people."

lakkris

having lived overseas and traveled around the globe, we take lots of things for granted here in the US.

I'm going to say flat out just the ability to be able to write what the author says got my uncle 10 years for refusing to print pro-government articles in his newspaper.

Other people I know who were Senators and Congressmen, also lost there jobs as representatives when the President, turned dictator and declared martial law, stripping the regular goverment of it's normal powers and usurping power. There was NEVER any due process for either the Government people, or my uncle.

America is a wonderful place, fraught with lots of problems, but problems that are not endemic to just the US, but to all the democratic countries of the world.

Anne

Ok, before I spew again I want to just apologize. The above wasn't the nicest of responses I could have given. I was in no way attacking you or your views, Cyn. You know I dig ya. Ok, that said, I'm gonna respond to this, but not here. I respect you far too much to ruin your day by pounding my opinions into your ground. HUGS

Cyn

Why leave the country? Why not stay and try to make it a better place?
Not quite sure how we vote for a "new government."
Are you saying vote for one of the two parties? Aren't they rather the same?
Impeachment means relatively nothing. Clinton was in fact, impeached. He fulfilled his term, however.

I do have some trouble with Rivero's analogies, and his sensationalistic writing style, but overall I agree with many of his points.

I appreciate that you've taken the time to comment. Thank you. :)

Anne

I just realized how very old I am after reading this. I am not a slave. If we don't like this country's policies (and certainly if Mr. Rivero doesn't) we can vote with our feet and well...move. Mr. Rivero is not a slave in that he is free to air his views on anything and everything and disagree with the government to his heart's content without being brutally repressed. He is not a slave in that he (and we) are allowed to vote for a new government or even impeach a leader if we chose so to do. I think that millions of men and women who's ancestors actually WERE slaves (who could not even speak, eat or leave a room without permission) would find his analogy in rather poor taste.

Cheekysquirrel

So you are probally freer to some extend in middle eastern countries where you don't have to pay tax as the government has it's own oil revenues?

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